Q Where does the match fee money go?
A. When we run a match the fees cover Atterbury Range fees, the fee for the NRA to turn in scores and the rest of the money goes pays for insurance (required to host matches at Camp Atterbury, approximately $1000 per year), website, targets, cardboard backers, pasters.
Q Why are CIHPRS fees higher than other places?
A. Other clubs have multiple programs to help pay for costs such as pistol matches, black powder matches, pistol/rifle leagues, small-bore, etc. CIHPRS is only supported by High power rifle matches and can not share the burden for the costs among other matches.
Q Why are there not cash payouts to the match winners?
A. With lower attendance the past several years there is less money to pay for club expenses mentioned above. In some cases individuals have had to pay for the insurance out of their own pocket and then been reimbursed as the cash has come back in. Some years this was not able to be done. However with the increased attendance of the 2014 season and with the expected increase of attendance of the 2015 season we ARE SERIOUSLY looking at bringing back match payouts as we are now on a more financially stable footing. Starting in 2016 there are cash payouts for regional and state championship matches.
Q Why are you going to online payment for match fees?
A. To make it easier for the people running matches and for the people who are shooting. It will streamline the process and help us with book keeping. Receipts will be much easier to track and account for than handling cash.
Q Why are you going to online sign up?
A On line sign up allows us to know in advance how many shooters to expect, and send an email to all registered participants in the event of changes or cancellations, or unexpected changes in protocol at Atterbury. It will allow us to get the majority of the match presquadded so that when people show up we can start.
Camp Atterbury Questions
Q Why do we need to turn in our rifle serial numbers?
A You don't anymore as of the 2017 season this use to be a requirement but is no longer.
Q. Why is match sign-up cutoff date the Wednesday before the matches with a late fee?
A. Camp Atterbury is a Military Base. Shooting on a military it's their house and we play by their rules. We are required to turn in a Gate Roster by Wednesday of match weekends. Also, in order for us to get our matches started on time and to make the setup process easier we have volunteers come down and pull out the necessary equipment early in the morning before the match. We also are going to start pre-squading the matches and having people gather on the firing line like Camp Perry to help expedite the starting of the matches, just like Camp Perry. With having people registered before this makes that task much easier. While we understand that things come up and people may not know for sure it is easier for running the match if you register and then have to back out as opposed to showing up unannounced.
Q. Are match scores turned in?
A. Yes all match scores will be turned in. It may take awhile to get them turned in but they will be turned in. One of the delays is caused by not having your NRA numbers. SO PLEASE make sure your NRA number is in your profile when you register.
Q. When can we practice?
A. Since we shoot on a military base, we only have access to the ranges during scheduled events. Some club matches may be structured as Team Matches or to allow coaching: check the match bulletins. We understand that sometimes shooters may want to work with another shooter to help with calling wind, etc. If you wish to work with another shooter you may do so, you just need to declare it at the beginning of the match.
Q. I don't have a classification yet do I have to shoot as a Master Unclassified?
A. If it is your first match you have ever shot, yes you do. However if you have proof of scores from other matches or we have scores from you from previous matches at Atterbury you can shoot as that classification. For our regular shooters who are waiting their official cards from the NRA we have gone back and assigned the temporary classification based on your score.
Q. What are Convertible Sighters?
A. Typically they are only seen in fullbore shooting however they can be written into the program for the traditional NRA matches. Here is how they work. A shooter will shoot both of his sighters. At the completion of them he has two choices.
1. He/She can choose to convert both sighters. They will then be listed as shots 1 and 2 for record and the shooter has 18 more shots for record.
2. He/She can choose to convert the second sighter. It will be listed as shot 1 for record and they then have 19 more shots for record.
3. He/She can choose not to convert the sighters. The shooter then has 20 shots for record.
It is the shooters responsibility to declare what they will do before taking another shot. If they do not declare and shoot a third shot, this will be counted as the first shot for record and the shooter MAY NOT convert the sighters. Also sighters must be taken in the manner in which the string will be shot. If it is an offhand string the sighters must be taken from the offhand standing position. Convertible sighters in NO WAY give a disadvantage to the shooter who chooses not to use them.
Q. Can we use muzzle breaks or silencers?
A. In the Sniper Match and Longest shot they are allowed as noted in the respective Match Bulletin. In NRA matches you may shoot with them on, however YOU WILL BE SHOOTING OUT OF COMPETITION and your scores will not count towards the match results and will not be turned into the NRA.
Q. What calibers are allowed?
A .30 cal and under as per NRA rules. For long range and longest shot matches, up to .338LM is allowed. Any derivatives of the 408 Chey-Tac or .50BMG are not allowed. Due to our insurance constraints and different range rules for Atterbury for larger calibers, we cannot allow any caliber over 338 Lapua Magnum for any CIHPRS event.
Q. How many relays will we be shooting?
A. We will shoot 4 relay format. The 3 relay format was experimented with for a couple matches early in the 2014 season but due to not having a dirt backstop and our carriers it was not any more efficient and did not save any time.
Q. Why are we using block times?
A. Since we have electronic targets shooters do not need to do pit changes. Since all shooters are on the line it is more efficient to just run the matches with block time and infiltration for the slow fire stages.
Q. Why have some of the block times been shortened?
A. We have shortened the time to what is within the rules. While it may seem shorter than what you are use to we examined the time it took our LR shooters to complete and felt that even within these time limits the shooters will have ample amount of time. The best advice is when you come to the firing line make sure you and your equipment are ready to go. If the line officer observes slow pit service additional time can be granted. HOWEVER the speed of pit service is often proportional to the shooting of the shooter.
Q. Why are we shooting Mid Range matches?
A. Because we've had a lot of requests for Midrange. Across the country and at other area ranges mid-range prone matches have increased in popularity especially with the increasing popularity of F-Class. At some clubs these are their most heavily attended matches. With the expanded schedule we thought it would be good to offer these matches as it is a good crossroads for both the Across the Course shooter and the Long Range shooter. In our experience Long Range can be very frustrating for both a new shooter trying to "get on paper" and the folks trying to pull for them in the pits. Midrange gives shooters new to Long Range or experienced shooters wanting to vet new equipment a chance to work up to the longer ranges.
Q. Why are there rifles listed as Service Rifles that are not Official Service Rifles?
A. By NRA rule the AR-15, M1, and M14 are the only official service rifles. However in the real world none of these rifles are actually issued in the form that is written in the rule. They like their forefathers are obsolete. The three official service rifles are peep and post military style sights and cosmetically look like the original versions issued. With this in mind we decided for club matches only, to adopt the "Once a Service Rifle, Always a Service Rifle" rule. The unofficial service rifles will be required to have the same sighting systems (peep/post or v-notch/post) and be in original as issued condition from the exterior. If there are internal modifications such as glass bedding, etc. that is fine. We don't have an influx of people wanting to shoot M1903's or Krag's but if people do, they will compete in the service rifle division, because that is what their rifle is.